The new user interface is in preview!

Want to check it out? Click here! (If you don't like it, you can still switch back)

League Forums

Main - General MFN Discussion

Leaving MFN

By setherick
5/10/2017 9:09 pm
I was just going to post that my teams were available and slip away without saying much to anyone (I did tell Ray I guess), but I have now had a few people reach out to me directly.

Yes, I am leaving MFN. No, I have not been banned, yet, I think.

The short answer why is because the game has ceased to be fun for me. I won't rehash the reasons why here. They are easy enough to find in some of all of my other posts.

Will I come back? Maybe, it depends. Probably not for several months.

To the veterans that I have competed with in multiple leagues -- like WarEagle, Ares, Gustoon, Bryson, Blackflys, Krazy, eyeballlll, ray, punisher (yes, punisher), drodgers, DemonMaster, CrazyRazor, catalist, Alpine, and all those I'm leaving out -- keep doing what you're doing. It's up to you all to show the up-and-comers the way now.

Out.

Re: Leaving MFN

By eyeballll
5/10/2017 11:11 pm
I'm really sad about this. I understand the reasoning, but you will be missed. I hope your miss it and come back, even in a limited way. You're an asset to all of us, from the newbies right up to JDB. This game is better because of your contributions. I've enjoyed competing with you!

Re: Leaving MFN

By Mr.Krazy
5/10/2017 11:28 pm
Just to be called a veteran by a vet himself sends shivers down my spine. Much respect to you Setherick, I 120% understand your decision on leaving the game. Hope to one day see you back here to compete against each other once again.

Regardless of what happens, you will be missed and good luck on your future endeavors

Re: Leaving MFN

By Ares
5/11/2017 12:46 am
Someone else needs to step up to fill seth's shoes and help constantly pester JDB in the MFN 1 Beta forum, otherwise it'll just be me nagging him all on my lonesome.

Re: Leaving MFN

By punisher
5/11/2017 2:09 am
eyeballll wrote:
I'm really sad about this. I understand the reasoning, but you will be missed. I hope your miss it and come back, even in a limited way. You're an asset to all of us, from the newbies right up to JDB. This game is better because of your contributions. I've enjoyed competing with you!


well i truly believe that JDB would have to make the game more stagnant to Setherick liken then i think he would come back.

will have to say that or should say i think it is JDB move or the basketball is in his court now and really i would think somewhat what he does from this point on will decide if Setherick comes back or if others will do what Setherick did and leave in droves .

Re: Leaving MFN

By big_guido1983
5/11/2017 3:34 am
To be honest, I'm close to leaving many of my teams including 75

Re: Leaving MFN

By CrazyRazor
5/11/2017 3:35 am
eyeballll wrote:
I'm really sad about this. I understand the reasoning, but you will be missed. I hope your miss it and come back, even in a limited way. You're an asset to all of us, from the newbies right up to JDB. This game is better because of your contributions. I've enjoyed competing with you!


**** right, you'll be missed bud. I hated to see this, but totally understood why. That's why I just let it be. It was the way you wanted to leave and I respected that. Like all the others, I hope you come back in time.

Best Wishes

CR

Re: Leaving MFN

By CrazyRazor
5/11/2017 3:38 am
big_guido1983 wrote:
To be honest, I'm close to leaving many of my teams including 75


Same for you. I hope ya don't go. Wished you woulda stayed in 74, but you have a lot of teams, too. I'm planning on cutting a couple out after the seasons are over. Haven't decided which ones yet.

Re: Leaving MFN

By WarEagle
5/11/2017 6:14 am
setherick

I completely understand (and am nearly there myself), but you will be missed nonetheless.

Good luck.

Re: Leaving MFN

By setherick
5/11/2017 6:33 am
punisher wrote:
eyeballll wrote:
I'm really sad about this. I understand the reasoning, but you will be missed. I hope your miss it and come back, even in a limited way. You're an asset to all of us, from the newbies right up to JDB. This game is better because of your contributions. I've enjoyed competing with you!


well i truly believe that JDB would have to make the game more stagnant to Setherick liken then i think he would come back.

will have to say that or should say i think it is JDB move or the basketball is in his court now and really i would think somewhat what he does from this point on will decide if Setherick comes back or if others will do what Setherick did and leave in droves .


Just a quick note. I don't think punisher is really putting blame on JDB here, but let me clear something up. In no way is my leaving a result of the quality of MFN in its current state. The game is playable and replayable for probably 90% of all team owners. Even with all of its problems, 0.4.1 fixed a number of the code problems with the game.

The problem for me is I exist in that 10% group where core logical problems with a game grate on me. (This could be one of the reasons why I'm so good at my IRL job.) I tend to trace these logical problems to a conclusion, and then decide if a game is worth playing despite them. Until recently, I found enough in MFN to keep my interest.

Now, that said, should JDB drop everything that he's doing and fix these core problems for the 10% of players like myself? No.

Software development lifecycles are a careful balance in priorities. And taking on a massive rewrite of core algorithms isn't worth JDB's time nor effort right now. There are a number of smaller fixes that should be made sooner that don't require a full rewrite of algorithms. Similarly, there are a number of smaller enhancements that could be made that would make the game more interesting for the vast majority of users. For instance, would you rather see hidden draft attributes development or have JDB do nothing but rewrite algorithms? No, didn't think so. I wouldn't want to see him waste his time either.

For what it's worth, this football sim held my interest longer than others. :)