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Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By BIDDZZBUCS
12/14/2017 7:43 am
He is..Hes a freakin WR.

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By raymattison21
12/14/2017 8:11 am
The logic would be that he is 6'1 198. How many nfl RBs were built like that. Not many. Due to leverage and duribilty concerns. None of that plays in to account here.

Playing a player out of position incurres a penalty of a few points towards that said position. Sy he is a 58/61....he will never reach that 61 positional rating playing out of position . If he were moved to RB he would gain few pounds and be a bit slower , but now have that ability to reach a 61 positional rating.

This is an opinion but all throughout the game guys are to lean or stocky. Real life advantages and disadvantages comes with these builds. That's why certain guys can only play certain postions . These are tied in to real life physiology of the body that just are not coded in this game.

But remember this has always been here....I made the playoffs in a league with RBs wrs on oline and Dbs on the defensive line. Never would this happen IRL, but it did here.

I hope one day durability and fatigue as well as speed and strength are tied to the body mass index of a player . Not just weight , cause if any exploits are happening here that it's it .

And don't forget where line play is right now. Over powered to say the least. This is a great example or what I would call the Emmitt smith effect. While this guys is no Emmitt smith he is seeing the benefit of a slew of great blockers .

Still, other factors are I bet the users he plays are not using bigger defensive sets vs the 113 with the blitz .

I will go 100 yards a game and then run 10 for 10 against a user that uses this defensive technique. This is why I suggested putting in audibles that put defenses in the sets....just to mix the game up a bit from this boring application .

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By chaospika
12/15/2017 12:15 am
what defensive do you suggest to stop it?

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By eyeballll
12/15/2017 2:55 am
Actually, this is good football. This player has solid speed, ball carrying and avoid fumble. These are the most important attributes for a RB, I think we all know that.

And have you guys SEEN THE OFFENSIVE LINE!!?? It's awesome. This owner built a legendary line, and he's pounding the rock using a servicable RB. Sorry, that's just good football.




Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By raymattison21
12/15/2017 8:36 am
chaospika wrote:
what defensive do you suggest to stop it?


This owner runs outside vs. Big sets and inside vs. Spread sets.

To stop the runs out of the spread sets use a rule to blitz out of bigger than suggested default set.

For example this owner shut down my run game by running a 4-3 blitz 2 vs. 113.

https://theefl.myfootballnow.com/log/565

There is a few runs if you look through out the log to get specifics, but I use no rules and set my matrix to bail on the run when users deploy this technique . I called only 10 that game for ten yards. But vs a non rule maker it will go 30 for 200 yards.

Use seths guide to stopping teams that run as he suggests this technique to limit guys who run primarily out of one set using different 2 blitz packages on run downs. The blitzes work well against the pass too so it's tough to lose out unless they hot read those plays with the right pass calls.

I really only saw a hand full of different runs scouting this 6 foot one 198 pound 15 strength wr/ back that somehow can handle the load of an 20 carries a game.

The closest recent real life player was , a back over 6foot, but under 200 pounds that led the league in rushing , might be c. Johnson , but he was way faster at least 98 speed and way stronger . And a. Peterson. But he was almost 30 pounds heavier so really none of this should ever happen .

IRL he would be injured

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By chaospika
12/15/2017 5:55 pm
don't know what oline you are looking at but his oline is not that great

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By chaospika
12/15/2017 5:56 pm
eyeballll wrote:
Actually, this is good football. This player has solid speed, ball carrying and avoid fumble. These are the most important attributes for a RB, I think we all know that.

And have you guys SEEN THE OFFENSIVE LINE!!?? It's awesome. This owner built a legendary line, and he's pounding the rock using a servicable RB. Sorry, that's just good football.






don't know what oline you are looking at.
Last edited at 12/15/2017 6:00 pm

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By chaospika
12/15/2017 5:59 pm
raymattison21 wrote:
chaospika wrote:
what defensive do you suggest to stop it?


This owner runs outside vs. Big sets and inside vs. Spread sets.

To stop the runs out of the spread sets use a rule to blitz out of bigger than suggested default set.

For example this owner shut down my run game by running a 4-3 blitz 2 vs. 113.

https://theefl.myfootballnow.com/log/565

There is a few runs if you look through out the log to get specifics, but I use no rules and set my matrix to bail on the run when users deploy this technique . I called only 10 that game for ten yards. But vs a non rule maker it will go 30 for 200 yards.

Use seths guide to stopping teams that run as he suggests this technique to limit guys who run primarily out of one set using different 2 blitz packages on run downs. The blitzes work well against the pass too so it's tough to lose out unless they hot read those plays with the right pass calls.

I really only saw a hand full of different runs scouting this 6 foot one 198 pound 15 strength wr/ back that somehow can handle the load of an 20 carries a game.

The closest recent real life player was , a back over 6foot, but under 200 pounds that led the league in rushing , might be c. Johnson , but he was way faster at least 98 speed and way stronger . And a. Peterson. But he was almost 30 pounds heavier so really none of this should ever happen .

IRL he would be injured


can you PM me seth's guide?

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By Bryson10
12/15/2017 6:02 pm
i just looked at the oline and it's pretty solid. As for rb's there's only a few attributes you need to be successful or to have some success. If the offense is running against coverage he will have tons of success even if he isn't that great just be cause the defense is in the wrong set. Just like a stud rb will struggle if he's playing a team that knows how to stop the run. I think the problem is more in base weights since they take into account too many attributes that don't matter at specific positions. Just because an owner finds success with players that are rated low doesn't mean it's an exploit. As for WR and RB's i do think the game should value body type at the two positions. They are not interchangable in real life but in mfn they are.

Re: Rb rated in the 40s/50s best runner in the league?

By eyeballll
12/15/2017 8:59 pm
chaospika wrote:
eyeballll wrote:
Actually, this is good football. This player has solid speed, ball carrying and avoid fumble. These are the most important attributes for a RB, I think we all know that.

And have you guys SEEN THE OFFENSIVE LINE!!?? It's awesome. This owner built a legendary line, and he's pounding the rock using a servicable RB. Sorry, that's just good football.






don't know what oline you are looking at.


What oline are YOU looking at? IM looking at the one where 4 of the 5 starters have 100 in both run blocking and pass blocking... I'm not sure what you think the offensive line does, but *I* think they block... This is really great line, whether you think it is or not. I would kill for a line like this...

And another thing: Why are people bashing this owner? He's built his dynasty over 11 seasons. He's stuck around in this league for months, and it's been the only league he's been in. I'd be happy to be in a league with him. I don't see the smoke and mirrors that others seem to see, I just see a guy who has built a champion...