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Re: Quarterbacks

By Lamba
11/24/2019 4:22 am
setherick wrote:
Lamba wrote:
I've somehow won two championships with my current QB... Or despite him.

But he was a FA pickup who kept improving in accuracy and I haven't had high picks, so...


What are you talking about. Flowers looks awesome. 95+ IN, ACC, ARM

He might be. For me he's a constant health hazard when watching the game in the morning. :-)

Re: Quarterbacks

By Lamba
11/24/2019 4:26 am
Mitch4742 wrote:
Wow, that was an awesome pick up for free agent. And not having to have him on hook for a big chunk of salary either.

As you can see from his draft position and+18 since start, he wasn't super interesting right away. But I didn't really draft a QB and played like 4-5-6 different QBs, so it was pure dumb luck that I picked him up and he kept improving like this. :-)

He was like 46/60 accuracy when I picked him up.
Last edited at 11/24/2019 4:27 am

Re: Quarterbacks

By mmr253
11/25/2019 3:30 am
Without wanting to hijack the thread.

For the first time ever I drafted a QB high in the first round after taking over a cap strapped team a season and a half ago.... this guy https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/7439

I've been starting him in pre-season but I assume my best best to get him to hopefully develop quickly is to start him from day one once the season starts and just take my inevitable lumps until his accuracy improves ?

Re: Quarterbacks

By setherick
11/25/2019 7:23 am
mmr253 wrote:
Without wanting to hijack the thread.

For the first time ever I drafted a QB high in the first round after taking over a cap strapped team a season and a half ago.... this guy https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/7439

I've been starting him in pre-season but I assume my best best to get him to hopefully develop quickly is to start him from day one once the season starts and just take my inevitable lumps until his accuracy improves ?



He has < 40 accuracy, which means he won't complete any passes, and he won't get to at least 50 accuracy this season regardless of whether he plays or rides the bench. I would bench him for the full year.

Re: Quarterbacks

By brxnivy
11/25/2019 10:30 am
I picked up rookie up off waiver this year. He is booming big time but I'm wondering if his low FOV and average INT and ARM are going to keep him from being what I hope he can become. These are his current Max's, still has a way to go to get there.

INT - 52
ACC - 91
ARM - 56
RELEASE - 94
LOOK OFF - 92
FOV - 32

Re: Quarterbacks

By raymattison21
11/25/2019 11:00 am
setherick wrote:
mmr253 wrote:
Without wanting to hijack the thread.

For the first time ever I drafted a QB high in the first round after taking over a cap strapped team a season and a half ago.... this guy https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/7439

I've been starting him in pre-season but I assume my best best to get him to hopefully develop quickly is to start him from day one once the season starts and just take my inevitable lumps until his accuracy improves ?



He has < 40 accuracy, which means he won't complete any passes, and he won't get to at least 50 accuracy this season regardless of whether he plays or rides the bench. I would bench him for the full year.


He will be 50 + by the seasons end, but those other two qbs are better . .. though all won't play really well without speed to throw to . Play familiarity takes around a half a season to gel so I think either way is a stragety decision .
Last edited at 11/25/2019 11:00 am

Re: Quarterbacks

By Infinity on Trial
11/25/2019 11:07 am
brxnivy wrote:
I picked up rookie up off waiver this year. He is booming big time but I'm wondering if his low FOV and average INT and ARM are going to keep him from being what I hope he can become. These are his current Max's, still has a way to go to get there.

INT - 52
ACC - 91
ARM - 56
RELEASE - 94
LOOK OFF - 92
FOV - 32


I would say 52 INT is far below average. I get nervous about high interception rates when my QB is below 90 INT, but I've survived (painfully) with ~75 INT. Similarly, I avoid QBs with below 70 arm. It isn't a dealbreaker, but everything else needs to be perfect. With your guy, the combo of a weak arm and bad INT would scare me. The only way I would keep him is if he were a great kick holder and I needed a QB2.

I'm curious to hear others' thoughts on FOV. I have devalued it because it seems like each play has a predetermined go-to receiver anyway (the route that finishes first).

Re: Quarterbacks

By raymattison21
11/25/2019 11:16 am
brxnivy wrote:
I picked up rookie up off waiver this year. He is booming big time but I'm wondering if his low FOV and average INT and ARM are going to keep him from being what I hope he can become. These are his current Max's, still has a way to go to get there.

INT - 52
ACC - 91
ARM - 56
RELEASE - 94
LOOK OFF - 92
FOV - 32


Who's say you can't win with a game manager at qb. But I wouldn't trade him for more than a 3rd rounder . Alot of vets sit in fa cause of thier weak arms and have better fov. So, his value for me is in the future as a #2 qb.

In version 4.5 I like to force big passes with strong armed guys....I just don't see him hitting those windows 15 -20 yards down feild consistently , but there no reason for him not to manage a game against most opponents . I like those guys to have some speed, scrambling , and fov. He lacks there a bit so he doesn't fit my styles which lowers his grade against elite opponents .

Drafted at 7.4 and picking him up in fa is a nice find but he will have a growth period to up his ratings.

Re: Quarterbacks

By Infinity on Trial
11/25/2019 11:19 am
raymattison21 wrote:
Who's say you can't win with a game manager at qb.


Playoff teams. Also, game managers have high intel.

Re: Quarterbacks

By raymattison21
11/25/2019 1:31 pm
Infinity on Trial wrote:
raymattison21 wrote:
Who's say you can't win with a game manager at qb.


Playoff teams. Also, game managers have high intel.


https://national-fictional-football-league.myfootballnow.com/player/1334

It was more of a challenge , but this qb was in fa and he threw almost 40 regular season TDs and choked in the play offs throwing 3 TDs and 6 ints.

Like 64 arm, 60 intelligence , like 75 fov and speed at the time and he was the worst qb I have used in 4.5 , but he made it to the playoffs .