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Re: Subcribe & Support

By frank
1/05/2025 5:51 pm
lack of revenue is not what is preventing MFN from advancing at a popular pace

Re: Subcribe & Support

By Waitwut
1/06/2025 8:23 am
GrandadB wrote:
Well, all I can say is it was no secret, and he was aware of the issue, I told him to kick me if he thought I had done wrong. And it was special circumstances with that particular player, who had mental problems and was getting slaughtered for not knowing the basics. I felt sorry for him and did what I could to help him, even going to the extreme of doing the changes for him, but did not do any scouting or specific gameplanning vs other teams.


The other player he references is billyvan1989 who I’ve seen zero evidence had mental disabilities. This is a cop out. Billy has played purposely bad for years.

Re: Subcribe & Support

By Cjfred68
1/06/2025 12:02 pm
GRANDADB IS A CHEATER!!!!

He actually quit MFN from all the backlash.

He said he was put in charge of a jobless veterans grant and wouldn't have time to play this silly game!

I assume Grandadb has found jobs for every veteran since he came back to MFN.

It's not just the punt block exploit he used (only in the postseason) in the XFL that got him caught cheating, he also cheated in at least 3 other leagues for not following the custom rules he now proclaims is the answer. His excuse in one league was he didn't have time to read all the rules and he is special and shouldn't be held to such petty rules.

Of course, there is also the league where he was admin and made all the rules which he held everyone accountable for following....except....surprise, surprise!!!!....himself!

Grandadb is a cheater and a liar who acts like he is a great mentor while taking advantage of other owners.

It's always the same with him! He knows exactly what he is doing and when caught claims he didn't know or didn't realize.

CJ

Re: Subcribe & Support

By raidergreg69
1/06/2025 12:22 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
GRANDADB IS A CHEATER!!!!

He actually quit MFN from all the backlash.

He said he was put in charge of a jobless veterans grant and wouldn't have time to play this silly game!

I assume Grandadb has found jobs for every veteran since he came back to MFN.

It's not just the punt block exploit he used (only in the postseason) in the XFL that got him caught cheating, he also cheated in at least 3 other leagues for not following the custom rules he now proclaims is the answer. His excuse in one league was he didn't have time to read all the rules and he is special and shouldn't be held to such petty rules.

Of course, there is also the league where he was admin and made all the rules which he held everyone accountable for following....except....surprise, surprise!!!!....himself!

Grandadb is a cheater and a liar who acts like he is a great mentor while taking advantage of other owners.

It's always the same with him! He knows exactly what he is doing and when caught claims he didn't know or didn't realize.

CJ



He's also used speed exploits before as he and I got into it over him bragging he had the best record with the lowest trade score. He had a low trade score because he was using speed only guys with crappy skills. The same kind of player he now rails against.

I really hope GDB doesn't hurt himself getting off his high horse he's currently on.

Re: Subcribe & Support

By Cjfred68
1/06/2025 1:55 pm


I'm done with GDB and I don't care what he does in his own league but I'm not gonna listen to him insult my league because I don't have custom rules.

First, I've been there are done that with all the rules for positions, physical weight and number of plays selected. It began time consuming and labor intensive and I'm here to play a game. I enjoy doing write-ups for teams, stats, Alltime records, playoffs and the draft....not fixing JDBs mistakes.

In fact, it was GDB who ultimately made me remove all rules because all it takes one owner in the Conference Championship game to ruin it for everyone. My XFL league is in season 37 and we have a Title won by a team without an owner because of GDBs cheating.

He beat someone in the Conference Championship game by 7 points while using the illegal punt block exploit. He was booted and the owner he beat quit the league. Why? Because even though GDB was caught, I had no recourse except to boot him.

Therefore, my league has ZERO rules and nobody can cheat. That means you must innovate to have success. If you just load up on empty speed players in the XFL...You won't win!

I also pay the max subscription every month but the irony is once we are forced to switch to JDBs new UI....I'm out!!! The new 2+ year project is so much worse then the current UI and it's not even close. Maybe the new UI allows JDB to do more behind the scenes easier but as an end-user...it's poorly designed, clunky and unusable! I would never ask anyone to pay for this mess until JDB finally does any work on the actual gameplan. It's like your car breaks down and everyone knows what's wrong with the engine and the mechanic makes a new paint job the priority!

It took me 3 full months to get through to JDB that he had completely neglected league player stats, team stats and league transactions from the new UI and I've never been able to use the new UI for more then 10 minutes since it constantly reloads pages and it doesn't allow you to open more then 1 tab in the same league.

When doing writeups for my league while using the old UI....I can have 5 or 6 tabs open to cycle through all the relevant data. The new UI won't allow it. Nothing fits to the screen so everything is pan and scan (why?).

The bottom line is this...everyone can do what they want in whatever leagues they play in but I can't stomach GDB dissing leagues that don't use custom rules especially when he is the one enforcing them. Several years ago, GDB was admin of a league, wrote the rules and went on to win the Title because he didn't follow his own rules. 3 separate owners parsed the data to confirm it and I wasn't one of them but I was sent all the data. They use python to scrap all the leagues data and it was abundantly clear that GDB skirted his own requirements especially in the playoffs to give himself an edge.

Last edited at 1/06/2025 2:31 pm

Re: Subcribe & Support

By raymattison21
1/06/2025 4:12 pm
The Elite Football League - End of the 2056 season in 8hrs.

Last chance to get in early.

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Re: Subcribe & Support

By raidergreg69
1/06/2025 6:35 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:


I'm done with GDB and I don't care what he does in his own league but I'm not gonna listen to him insult my league because I don't have custom rules.

First, I've been there are done that with all the rules for positions, physical weight and number of plays selected. It began time consuming and labor intensive and I'm here to play a game. I enjoy doing write-ups for teams, stats, Alltime records, playoffs and the draft....not fixing JDBs mistakes.

In fact, it was GDB who ultimately made me remove all rules because all it takes one owner in the Conference Championship game to ruin it for everyone. My XFL league is in season 37 and we have a Title won by a team without an owner because of GDBs cheating.

He beat someone in the Conference Championship game by 7 points while using the illegal punt block exploit. He was booted and the owner he beat quit the league. Why? Because even though GDB was caught, I had no recourse except to boot him.

Therefore, my league has ZERO rules and nobody can cheat. That means you must innovate to have success. If you just load up on empty speed players in the XFL...You won't win!

I also pay the max subscription every month but the irony is once we are forced to switch to JDBs new UI....I'm out!!! The new 2+ year project is so much worse then the current UI and it's not even close. Maybe the new UI allows JDB to do more behind the scenes easier but as an end-user...it's poorly designed, clunky and unusable! I would never ask anyone to pay for this mess until JDB finally does any work on the actual gameplan. It's like your car breaks down and everyone knows what's wrong with the engine and the mechanic makes a new paint job the priority!

It took me 3 full months to get through to JDB that he had completely neglected league player stats, team stats and league transactions from the new UI and I've never been able to use the new UI for more then 10 minutes since it constantly reloads pages and it doesn't allow you to open more then 1 tab in the same league.

When doing writeups for my league while using the old UI....I can have 5 or 6 tabs open to cycle through all the relevant data. The new UI won't allow it. Nothing fits to the screen so everything is pan and scan (why?).

The bottom line is this...everyone can do what they want in whatever leagues they play in but I can't stomach GDB dissing leagues that don't use custom rules especially when he is the one enforcing them. Several years ago, GDB was admin of a league, wrote the rules and went on to win the Title because he didn't follow his own rules. 3 separate owners parsed the data to confirm it and I wasn't one of them but I was sent all the data. They use python to scrap all the leagues data and it was abundantly clear that GDB skirted his own requirements especially in the playoffs to give himself an edge.



Love the pic

Re: Subcribe & Support

By Cjfred68
1/07/2025 9:46 am
XFL LEAGUE

We are currently full but usually have a few openings after every season. PM me if you want on the waiting list and I will message you right after an opening becomes available.

OWNERS SENIORITY (2054)


The 37th season begins shortly so it's time for ROLL CALL!!!!

We start the season with 32 owners!!!!



I want to thank each and every one of you for making the XFL one of a few leagues that are full!!





THE FOUNDERS (20+ seasons)
1.  Cjfred68 (DAK) 37th season
1.  Smirt211 (BUF) 37th season
3.  Trslick (MTG) 35th season
4.  Raidergreg69 (GCG) 34th season
5.  Claymore (VBA) 33rd season
6.  Voryzover (DAY/KCY) 28th season
7.  Timreesejr (SEA/MEM) 26th season
8.  Blondie1977 (CIN) 21st season
8.  Amalric7 (PRI/CIN/ARZ/WAS/NYE) 21st season

OLD SCHOOL VETERANS (10-19 seasons)

10. Slowtospeak (CAR/WAS) 19th season
11.  Mlowe (IND) 18th season
11.  Dangalanti (ATL/TOR/NYE) 18th season
13.  Rialto/Kidpoker (SEA) 16th season
14.  Brxnivy (PRI) 15th season
14.  Datsmallboi (OAK) 15th season
16.  Pronfl51 (ATL/PRI/SPP) 14th season
17.  Drhayhurst (CAR) 13th season
18.  Warthog (LAC) 12th season
19.  Thanos4real (TOR) 11th season
20.  McBolt55 (KCY/DAY) 10th season

NEWLY VESTED VETERANS (5-9 seasons)

21.  Big Popa (BRO) 9th season
22.  Beercloud (MIA) 8th season
23.  Mwd65 (OAK/PHI) 7th season
24.  Ioanblood (VAN/PIT) 5th season
24.  Hammond (SEA/ATL) 5th season
24.  ACTION-JACKSON (TBY/NEC) 5th season

ROOKIES (1-4 seasons)

27.  Shanman (RAN) 4th season
28.  Eddie1958 (ORG) 3rd season
28.  Jilyman (TBY) 3rd season
30.  Nukexprt (PNX) 1st season
30.  Roaddogg (HOU) 1st season
30.  OGG99 (VAN) 1st season

Re: Subcribe & Support

By TheWitchHunter
1/07/2025 11:24 pm
There are people on here who act like having more than 1 account is the absolute evil while having more than one account.

Me looking at a whole lot of league admins and especially GDB.

I went through all this, and it's the same people - who actually run more than one account - castrating people like waitwhut and others for having more than one account.

To waitwhut: why would you manually do that? You got manipulated by a lazy person unwilling to incorporate your knowledge offered onto doing the students homework. Never a good idea.
Teachers instruct the lesson to the student. they never, ever do the lesson for the student (that goes for all you parents out there doing your kids elementary level homework, too!)

The very same people who suggest, have and justify multiple accounts becuase they are an admin are the very first people to accuse and call someone a cheater for doing so.

GDB is especially harmful this way (well, perhaps their constant poaching attempts would be a 1b). He is not alone. I still get PM's. Very passive aggressive. Nothing like calling someone a cheat and then inviting them to one of your way too many leagues a month later. Some crows just caw. He's certainly some kinda Crow.

@Waitwhut: Just remember - the first (and 2nd, 3rd and 4th person) to call you a cheater for logging in to help (teachers don't do the students homework - that was your primary error) are the first people to have more than 1 account.
Logging into another person's account is usually dictated as a ban-able offense in most TOS, but this is MFN, and well, you did not break the TOS.
Was not a dual registered account to the same user.
Was not within the same "household" (IP/TOC address).
That would be GDB's error, and it's*actually* against the TOS.

You certainly broke gamer code and etiquette that's been around since like 1992 usenet RPGs. Now you know. Like baseball's unwritten rules that rule would be.
I suggest to be more careful moving forward. Be open with all involved should you find any need to do it again. Never stop helping someone. Personally, I do not question your intentions. Seems they were true, to me, at least. :)
Always inform JDB. Get permission first, do it right so when you get called a cheater you got some ammunition to defend your intentions.
That's what I did.
If you are always above ground, no one can put you in it.

Guilty people always point fingers, and im pretty sure every admin has at least 2 accounts.
I accept 2 is needed to admin. I encourage admins to have 2 accounts. I do not accept people with 2+ accounts calling someone a cheat for any long term or short term use of 2+ accounts, regardless of circumstances.

I could buy into the cheat idea if the accusers were not cheaters by their own definition of account abuse.
Kettle, meet spoon. Same pot doing the same thing, but with different justifications.

F the haters.
Do what's right.
Never do someone else's homework for them. That ain't right, either.
*winks*

Can y'all get past shouting each other down and degrading each other and giving me every reason to never spend a single penny on such a toxic community or can you start playing nice with each other?

AS FOR THE ACTUAL TOPIC:
Why would anyone pay money to be chastised, belittled, subjugated and bullied as I consistently have been over years and continue to see to this day on these forums?
You gotta be nuts. Some people start the subscribe post, at the very least made very impassioned posts within to subscribe, and then it's a full page of the usual nastyness.
Well, usual towards me, at least. Clearly there's a new target.
Same subjugation, frankly the same accusers.

I 've said it regularly and often: It's not MFN, it's the MFN community that is flawed.
I continue to stand by that, and I'll continue to moving forward as long as yall keep trashing strangers with good intentions.

The number one reason players numbers have dwindled so is because players keep being nasty.

Count this as the i dunno - at least 100th time i've made this point since 2022.

SOBack to the Front \m/ : Besides the you will do what i say or you will die crowd that started this post, tell me again why I should pay money to be chastised, abused, segregated, and subjugated by the all so self righteously self-manifested players that continue to harrass and intimidate other players?

Could be worse, they coulda run a full google diagnostic 3 days research into your mental health and called you a transvestite like they did me.
Take the win, waitwhut, take the win. Persevere.

It's never about WHO is right. it's always going to be about WHAT is right,

most important thing I ever learned.

...and now back to tonight's program:
Subscribe & Support (brought to you by Proctered and Gambled).
(cue intro theme music, I'm rolling with the 1980's A team OG theme. It was awesome.)

I made 4 spelling edits. a 5th time to add that frilly bolding shtuff.
Last edit (6th edit gawd i'm just way too OCD):
    Psalm 2025:

Share screens on Zoom or whatever app of mutual preference if words are not enough. Like, it's 2025, no one should ever go into anyone's shtuff, nor should any let anyone else get into their shtuff. R'amen.
Last edited at 1/07/2025 11:56 pm

Re: Subcribe & Support

By TheWitchHunter
1/07/2025 11:59 pm
Psalm 2025.1: Microsoft Blew it in 2020, and thus Skype disappeared forever into the thereafter, and from there after it was never called upon again to be of use by it's Master.

HA flipping HA time for bed yo.