I can help with that :









You've been pissed off ever since the day Meat joined, when I questioned your judgement and told you that winning didn't mean as much to me as it does to Infinity. It clearly offended you that I was in your league for the WRONG reasons.

BTW, everybody, I never asked Cj to kick Meat out of his league. There is a difference between questioning Cj's judgement and doing that. On the contrary, I vouched for Meat's (moot) championship in C35. I also avoided any conversation with Meat in Champions until he attacked. His attack had nothing to do with either punt blocks or tweakers.

Sad thing is, I have a lot of respect for you Cj, and the work you do. Sometimes we can agree to disagree, other times either "everyone is entitled to an opinion" or you're entitled to two or three contradictory opinions or "I'm telling you you're wrong then shutting down this thread because I don't like your opinion even though I didn't really read it."

Waste of time....punt block away

I do get it. That's fine ... your solution is NIMBY.

Blocking punts is a set and forget thing. Half the time I forget until it happens to me. I don't mind it so much personally, because it's not an exclusive thing anymore - but I would like to see it fixed.

Cj - I wouldn't ask you to apologize for changing your opinion. You could just admit you're pissed off and you've been pissed off.

No? I do believe he thought when he did that - that I would never take his own words and stick them up his *** sideways in public.

I guess we're going to continue ignoring tweakers.

guys, please stop fighting, you are not going to help get punt blocks on a reasonable level by fighting. Your are both passionate about your opinion, and that shows that you both care about the game, so just agree to disagree and accept the other opinion even if you don't share it.

Looking at this thread, everybody will just notice 2 guys going at each other and will not read the imo strong reasons to reduce the probability of a punt block

.....ENJOY!

I can apologize to holly and others here. I have no problem admitting that I was pissed off. That needed to happen.

Back to real debate.

The problem with a NIMBY solution, is that it gives jdb one more rationale - to not spend the 45 minutes to at least patch this issue with a tweak to punt timing. If people don't like punt blocks, they can just go join one of Cjfred's leagues.

I want punt blocks fixed. I want punt blocks urgent until they are fixed for everyone, including the "wild west".

I apologize for starting this thread. It wasting everyone's time including mine.

Anyone looking to take over league admin duties for any or all of my leagues.....PM me.

Here's how you solve it. No debating. No back and forth.

Not you, CJ or Tarq. I mean peeps who just like to battle.

Outlaw DBs (CBs and SSs and WRs at the 4 line positions + the 2 wing spots which sprout off of it). Only offensive and defensive linemen, FB/TEs for blocking or LBs can be used here. I don't think LBs can get through.)


Self police and shame anyone whom uses the tactic in the regular season.

Post-season? If someone uses the punt block technique and definitely if it nets them a win = automatic ejection on the spot from the league.

It can be debated if they swing and miss with it whether it gets them booted or if they don't garner a win with it. ....and that's it....

wow, I totally didn't realize there was a war going on before I got here.

I'm going to try to keep this going as a rational discussion, because I also believe this is an exploit that hurts the game overall, because newcomers get crushed by it.

There's 2 big problems with NFL comparisons.

#1 As stated above, the NFL team would make adjustments mid game. Here teams have no way to make adjustments mid game.

#2 NFL coaches have a really good idea of who would be good at doing what. Here we have to rely on ratings, and in this case the ratings are very wrong.

The issue is not that fast guys are blocking too many punts. That's what they are there for. The issue is that the Ai doesn't do anything about it.

I believe the Ai should be better at finding someone that can block the guys that are trying to block the punt. AFAIK, that's a ratings issue.

I know that once I put a guy with 80+ acceleration, with 60+ speed at 270ish pounds, the number of my punts that got blocked went way down. That guy happens to be a DE rated 41 at the slot I have him in (across from the punt blocker). There's no statistics for punt blocks, so I had to go back and scrub the pbp for every game. I didn't find 1. Fwiw, my Punter has a timing of 81, which is pretty good, but not a game breaker by any stretch.

Fix the ratings. It's easy.

Taking advantage of the punt block glitch is a punk @$$ move. I would know - because I recently used it (very successfully) and after the game it felt rotten.

I recently lost a super-close playoff game to a team that took advantage of the glitch - and I took the "can't beat em, join em" attitude. After the 1st game in a different league - I was disgusted as I watched my team block 4 punts.

I guess it is part of this game, and not much different than the other cheats that can be used to manipulate the game other than it is a flat-out obvious, difference-maker. From my experience it is more enjoyable to beat the opponent than to beat the game.