Dunno how the topic went from improving the game to all that hate in the backlines of society.
What I do know, is all those who have detested me, belittled, me, attacked me personally to make themselves bigger have yet to actually address or present any idea about how to make MFN better.

I have gone from discussing my sphagetti ideas of MFN improvement, my decision and declaration not to play until there is a new version, to defending actual human traits, - the core of what makes someone a something.

How the f we got here is beyond me, but all I get is nothing about MFN, and everything about exclusion.

Some of y'all are really nasty people, and want nothing to do with the moving MFN to it's best platform.


Fix the engine.
I will leave it at that.
I sure cannot stop the personal attacks that have resulted from my desire to push MFN to 4.7, but I sure wish they were on game and not ON ME.

Then again, y'all be glorifying 9/11 attackers.
An unwinable situation.
I'm talking apples, y'all be talking hate.

CSB you are the one currently spreading the hate. Go back and read these last 2-3 pages and tell me who is spreading hate and attacking people. It's you buddy.

Thankyou sir!
May I have another?!

DOne with your hate, raidergreg.
Thank you again for your personal attack, and direct willfull lack of presenting an idea of progress.
You lost me when you quit my league in favor of terrorists and not US citizens.
Not much more to say, is there?

Once again, what personal attack? How have I attacked you? If anything you've been attacking me the last hour.

If he really could just say fix the engine, and stop that would really be something, but none of the posts are actually that simple, now are they?

If the additional content was suggested fixes and advice that would be fine too, but there is always way more drama involved. Please chill out, 4.5 was broken, 4.6 isn’t perfect, but certain things changed for the better, others got worse. Adapt and move on.

and yes, I do hate v4.6
But I do not hate individuals.

You bet I'll pull in someones hidden nasty to object to their claims of self righteousness - as I have done with you raidergreg.


It's not who is right but what is right.
What is right is updating MFN ASAP.

raidergreg, perhaps the best thng for MFN's future is you not playing beta, yes?
The whole blocking fiasco is rooted in your pushes on JDB.
STFU, stick to the game, stop the personal attacks, and that your personal attacks / issues with the likes of myself and CJfred (whom you will not be in a league with - you did tell me CJ or me about my league GMS not so long ago.

In other words, there have been multiple occasions in my dealing with you as an individual in my own leagues where you can not, and will not play nice with others, where what you want is the be all end all, ill quit and take my ball home situation.
...and you always take your ball home.
yet you were the absolute instigation of what made 4.6 so freaking terrible to play. We got your blocking, and noone likes it.

I'll be happy to post your pms of hate towards the likes of cjfred, JB90 and the like that I have kept veiled.
At least I have the ***** to be blunt.

IS there anyone in MFN you do not have an issue with?
I do not think so.

Shame on me for trying to work with you. SHame onme for thinking we had common objectives about the future of MFN.

No ideas. Just hate. That is all you and others have.
I'm your target, glad to be the huckleberry for you and yours.
All I see are personal attacks without ideas.

Not even a counter argument to my ideas...
Just personal hate.

Enough superlatives and conjecture. Especially when it comes to items outside of MFN itself.
Grow up, ya haters. Attack me all you wish,but you wont fix anything and I will not stop asking for anupdate.

Which is all I have done to get all this hate.

Fix the engine.


Stop the hate.

Victim mentality much? Btw, I think you confused Cjfred with GDB. I get along just fine with CJ and I'm in all his leagues.

Once again you provide no examples of me spreading hate tonight and you continue to rail on me.

Please tell me again who exactly is spreading hate and attacking people right now.

if folks focused on solutions as much as they focused on insulting me, MFN WOULD BE FIXED.

I have no beef with raidergreg. You can scratch my name out.

I just don’t understand what happened here. Is it really that bad to point out that even though this game is broken in some ways, it’s still a good product? I personally agree with greg and CJ. JDB created online game that brought together a bunch of players from all over the world and did that without taking any salary or benefits. There’s a bunch of us who donated few bucks that won’t pay the bills in jdb’s household though.

Let’s talk about improvements and share ideas on how to make this game better. But what good could this thread bring? If I was JDB and read this, I probably wouldn’t need more discouragement to roll my sleeves up and start working.

Going back to the subject of player names.
I spotted a LB called Mike Hunt in one of my recent drafts, he wasn't particularly good but I spent a 7th rounder on him just to appeal to my sense of humour and kept him on the team for a couple of seasons.
That's the kind of think I was hoping to see when I opened this thread.