It seems like every time I turn around, you are going off on someone or about someone, throwing accusations and insults. A number of those have been unfounded but the damage has been done.

Frankly, your incessant rantings have gotten old. I'd ask that you stick to proven facts and not your opinions or suspicions as you have taken some of the fun out of this game. I must say, due to your 'crying wolf' so many times, I roll my eyes whenever I see your posts and I don't want to have that opinion as I have nothing against you personally.

If I offended you I apologize, as my comments were not intended to be against you personally; Rather at the way you post on the game.

Fact checked your Roll Tide example.

The trades were with two different owners, Bryson and Jake T I believe.

Are you implying that Bryson, Jake, and Roll Tide are the same person. Or are you implying that Bryson and Jake share this account in a grand conspiracy?

Either way you should present your evidence to JDB, not blast the poor guy on the forums. If he's reading this, you probably made him feel like s***.

Also, you didn't present any evidence for most of your claims. I personally don't consider the trade "evidence" real as I've explained earlier. When you make bold statement like saying he has no game plan rules, you better have great evidence to support that. And if anything else, can you please stop with the incessant sarcasm.It's hard to read and kills the thread.

i actually had conversation with roll tide on private message so if JB needs any proof for my side i'm totally open. He offered me a trade out of the blue and we negotiated. One of the reasons i'm excited about getting into a private league is so i don't even have to worry about stuff like this. The last trade i got called out for was with punisher and it's getting old.

OK, was gonna let this go at previous post, but I feel like I need to clarify a little, sorry. Im not"blasting a poor guy" as there is no guy based on reviewing the account activity. Proof? the only thing you can do to arrive at a conclusion like that is to review the account activity and transactions versus results in game play. I didnt go looking for this "guy", he was specifically pointed out to me by another player who Bryson knows very well and highly respects. And its no blame on Bryson if someone sends him a message regarding a trade using that account, appearing to be the actual player. How does he know whether or not its the real person or someone using the account as a dupe? All he can do is wonder wth the guy is doing offering a trade like that. Its pretty hard to turn down a trade for 2 #1s in an offer like that, especially when you know the true values involved. However, Im pretty sure Bryson will agree that he has become much more aware of that account and those like it. And Bryson really doesnt need any extra advantages, he is crushing most if not all the leagues he is in, lol. I would rank him up there with the best, if not #1.

There will be no more posts in the open forum by me about this kind of activity, so no worries for those of you who find this distastefull and disturbing. I dont blame you, it is unpleasant and not fun to deal with or think about. I dont want to make your game experience less enjoyable, my intent here is the opposite, and for some its not accomplishing that. Hopefully, those who do take the time to read these threads may be more aware and watchful for this potential abuse and report it to admin and leave it at that. cheers, gdad

GrandadB.

I'm not trying to pile on to you, but to me it seems you are missing the point that some of us (maybe just me) are trying to make about your "proof". This R*** T*** (I'm not saying that name) may indeed be a fake or duplicate account, but you cannot use account activity or game performance to determine that.

Some of us really enjoy this game and are here everyday. But, this is a free game. There are going to be other owners who only "drop in" from time to time, and let the AI handle most things. Some of those will have successful teams, and some of them will not. Heck, some successful owners who are here everyday let the AI handle most things and are not very active in terms of transactions.

Your "proof" is proof of nothing more than that the owner is not very active, or good, or both.

My only issue with your comments comes down to semantics. I don't think there would be as much of an issue with them if you didn't imply speculation (even if it appears to be common sense) is "proof".

I hope you take this in the spirit it is intended, which is constructive criticism. I don't want you to feel like you don't want to post ideas, or even suspicions if the situation calls for it.

Unfornuately I really doubt being in a private league would stop the accusations .

Only things I can think of that would stop accusations is this:

1. that the private league only people in there could see the forum ( still might happen if someone like granddadb got it and still thought someone was cheating)

2. that really anytime there is a thread about accusations would be locked/closed by the admin.
Also if the admin maybe went as far as saying accusations wouldn't be tolerated on this forum where no one would make any or make threads about them.

btw I would hate for that happen because really at times we do have great lectures on this forum so it might take that away if you start restricting people.

3. that people would stop accusing others of cheating and just if they feel something is out of place would just send that INFO to the ADMIN it might stop people making accusations threads.

etc.

anyway I think really what is sad about the accusations is it wouldn't surprise me if people who have left this website left because of that stuff because that stuff gets REALLY OLD REAL QUICK.

also if people keep up the accusations sooner or later that might be the thing that kills this website and it might end up being a ghost town like myspace is.

Agree that its time to quit posting about this problem in the public forum. Admin is more than aware of the the problem and situation and there's no point in beating it to death. I apologize to those who enjoy the game as it is and dont want to see or hear accusations and dispersions about suspicious accounts. You wont see me posting about this topic on here again, promise. cheers, gdb

Gramps has had the ***** to bring up the Elephant in the room and NO ONE has had the ***** to even remotely agree with him.
Seriously if anyone thinks this game is snow white, you are truly deluded. There is a problem in here and it is easy to find, if you look hard enough.

What?

No one said the problem didn't exist. Nobody said they didn't agree with him that it exists.

I personally told him to take it out with JDB, not call some poor guy out on the forums. Like I said, all it does is make people feel like s*** when they don't need to. I also asked him to present real evidence, which he didn't do in his scenario.

I also told him to shut it with the sarcasm. It's annoying as ****.

Anyway, nobody is denying that the problem exists. WarEagle even explicitly said that earlier. This is just neither the place or situation to do so.

Sorry can't be arsed to read all the way through yet another thread on this.

Where is then?