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Re: Player Playbook Knowledge

By Brrexkl
1/23/2017 3:13 pm
raymattison21 wrote:
Brrexkl wrote:
raymattison21 wrote:
Brrexkl wrote:
raymattison21 wrote:
Real football has rules within the assignments and it all depends on how the other guys line up and the look he is going. This is why teams disguise stuff.

Those minute alignment do change reads and assignments and force players to use different blocking techniques. The FB has some of the simplest reads which lead to simple blocking techniques . He might have to drive with his inside shoulder....outside shoulder....he might have to kick out...it all depends on what the defense shows and does after the snap. Particularly the FB will have seek out different players . Play familiarity is not simple at all and should be reset as a player changes position groups. And definitely should not carry over as you say. It should be scraped or it acts more like team chemistry . ....or that how I view it in relation to real football


I never said it should carry over when changing Position Groups. The FB is still the FB, whether he is in Balanced, Weak or Strong... still the FB.

If the TE flexes out, he's still the TE. He's simply flexed. He's not learning to be a WR, he's learning to do what a TE does when a TE is asked to Flex (which on that particular play would be what the Slot WR would do if they had came out with a Slot instead of a TE).

But again, NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL SUGGESTION.


Still, it should be scrapped because when you switch positions the player doesn't have to learn the play again....even though he is learning a whole new position with a complete set of assignments. To me that is an exploit. Most of my players Play multiple positions and can cross over position groups with ease. IMO it's just not that easy . ..here guys are penalized only by learning a new position. About a four to eight game penalty till max ability is reached....


But he doesn't have to learn the play again in real life either. ****, I knew the assignment of every player on the field when I played, because I learned the PLAY... the ENTIRE PLAY... not just MY RESPONSIBILITY.

What YOU are talking about is Player Responsibility. What I'm talking about is Play Knowledge. You are talking about the variations of a single Player and the intricacies involved. Against this Front I X, against this Front I Y. That's Player Responsibility.

Play Knowledge is of the ENTIRE PLAY. If you learned the Play... and not JUST your Responsibility, then what do you need to Learn about it if you move from LG to TE, or even QB? You know the PLAY, not an Individual Assignment.

I see 'Play Book'. I don't see 'Individual Assignment'.

If these dots of ours were merely learning Individual Assignments, I'd agree with you on Position Changes requiring Plays to be re-learned from the perspective of the new Individual Assignment.

That's not what it says. It's not saying they learn their Assignment, it says (and perhaps I'm taking it to literally) PLAY KNOWLEDGE. Not Individual Assignment Knowledge. They are Learning the ENTIRE PLAY.

If this was Assignment Knowledge, I'd tend to agree with you. It's not... it's Play Knowledge. Which is the ENTIRE PLAY, not just one Individual Assignment in the Play.


Just tell me this what is the MLB read on a counter?

How about the DES read on that counter?

How about the FBS read?

It doesn't matter because we have no rules within assignments or reads for that matter.

How about the man cover schemes out of goaline vs. That play action pass? Tell what familiarity is causing these guys to leave one guy open while doubling another?

Nothing cause the DBS are not following any rules within there assignments . ....

You act like every play knows what the others supposed to do. I don't think it all that easy. This is why nfl staff are so huge. So that it is not left up to the player to decide....it in grained in by watching film and endless hours of practice involving sport specified movements . Not being familiar with it!


And here you confuse Real Life with a Simulation. These are not the same things.

You're asking for a mechanic different that the one we have. Which is fine. Make your own thread suggesting that.

That isn't what we have HERE in MFN, which is where I'm making my suggestion.